1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.COM 1 00:00:09,270 --> 00:00:11,185 MAN: There's another one, 2 00:00:11,228 --> 00:00:14,188 down by the spa. 3 00:00:52,095 --> 00:00:54,967 You asked me how to get ahead at the firm. 4 00:00:55,011 --> 00:00:56,578 That's how you do it. 5 00:00:56,621 --> 00:01:00,016 What about merit? W-What about hard work? 6 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:01,191 [chuckles] 7 00:01:01,235 --> 00:01:04,020 Let me explain something to you. 8 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:05,848 For you to rise in the ranks, 9 00:01:05,891 --> 00:01:07,632 someone has to make room for you. 10 00:01:07,676 --> 00:01:08,938 They have to give up something, 11 00:01:08,981 --> 00:01:13,029 maybe a raise or part of a bonus. 12 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:15,510 Now why is someone going to be giving up something 13 00:01:15,553 --> 00:01:18,078 unless they get something? 14 00:01:19,992 --> 00:01:22,473 [gags] 15 00:01:22,517 --> 00:01:25,476 Oh, geez. It's behind you, corner of the bar. 16 00:01:48,543 --> 00:01:51,415 [shushing] 17 00:02:00,207 --> 00:02:04,428 M.E. HENSON: January 5th, 9:40 p.m. 18 00:02:04,472 --> 00:02:05,951 Postmortem examination. 19 00:02:05,995 --> 00:02:09,477 External search: Negative. Internal trunk exploration: 20 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,653 Negative. 21 00:02:11,696 --> 00:02:15,047 Forensic evidence discovered: None. 22 00:02:17,528 --> 00:02:19,443 How is that possible? 23 00:02:19,487 --> 00:02:20,966 Excuse me? 24 00:02:21,010 --> 00:02:23,578 This man's killed four women in a year and a half. 25 00:02:23,621 --> 00:02:26,146 How is it he can hide in women's bathrooms, 26 00:02:26,189 --> 00:02:28,409 chloroform his victims, undress them, 27 00:02:28,452 --> 00:02:30,715 undress himself, have sex with them, 28 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:32,152 strangle them to death, 29 00:02:32,195 --> 00:02:34,371 and still not leave one bit of forensic evidence? 30 00:02:34,415 --> 00:02:36,982 Not one drop of semen? Not one fleck of skin? 31 00:02:37,026 --> 00:02:39,463 Listen, I know you're new here, but, uh, Dr....? 32 00:02:39,507 --> 00:02:41,465 Martin. Julia Martin. 33 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:43,119 We're talking public bathrooms. 34 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:45,730 They're a convention center of forensic evidence. 35 00:02:45,774 --> 00:02:47,863 The victims' bodies, that's another story. 36 00:02:47,906 --> 00:02:49,865 That's how we'll get him. 37 00:02:53,434 --> 00:02:55,131 PETER: Dr. Martin, you're still here? 38 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:57,873 I'd like to take another look at Emily Baker's body. 39 00:02:57,916 --> 00:03:00,484 Eh, kind of late. Everyone's gone. 40 00:03:00,528 --> 00:03:02,530 That's okay. I'll be fine. 41 00:03:02,573 --> 00:03:05,185 I'll put everything back the way I found it. 42 00:03:09,058 --> 00:03:11,234 HOLLOWAY: We're obviously thrilled that this afternoon, 43 00:03:11,278 --> 00:03:13,758 a jury of his peers convicted John Malford, 44 00:03:13,802 --> 00:03:16,544 otherwise known as the "Bathroom Stall Butcher," 45 00:03:16,587 --> 00:03:18,763 for the murder of young Emily Baker. 46 00:03:18,807 --> 00:03:21,810 Special thanks to the New York City Medical Examiner's Office, 47 00:03:21,853 --> 00:03:24,595 in particular to Julia Martin, 48 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,032 whose tireless work led to the discovery of the pivotal piece 49 00:03:27,076 --> 00:03:29,557 of evidence against John Malford. 50 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,777 [soft jazz music playing] 51 00:03:32,821 --> 00:03:36,041 Hi. Welcome to Billy's. 52 00:03:36,085 --> 00:03:39,480 If you're gonna be a successful attorney in Manhattan, 53 00:03:39,523 --> 00:03:41,482 this is a place you need to know about. 54 00:03:41,525 --> 00:03:43,701 Oh, I didn't even know there was a Billy's. 55 00:03:43,745 --> 00:03:48,619 Well, consider tonight as a part of your legal education. Thanks. 56 00:03:48,663 --> 00:03:51,448 As a matter of fact, FDR used to settle cases 57 00:03:51,492 --> 00:03:52,710 at that table right there 58 00:03:52,754 --> 00:03:54,625 in the back. Oh, I don't care about all that. 59 00:03:54,669 --> 00:03:56,453 Show me where the Benny Colón booth is. 60 00:03:56,497 --> 00:03:58,629 [laughs] No, this ain't Dunkin' Donuts. 61 00:03:58,673 --> 00:04:00,544 [chuckles]Why don't you find us a table. 62 00:04:00,588 --> 00:04:02,981 I'll grab us some drinks. 63 00:04:03,025 --> 00:04:05,114 STELLA: Benjamin Colón. 64 00:04:05,157 --> 00:04:06,289 Stella! 65 00:04:06,333 --> 00:04:08,509 And Ryan. [both laugh] 66 00:04:08,552 --> 00:04:10,554 [laughs]: Wow... 67 00:04:10,598 --> 00:04:11,860 What is the occasion? 68 00:04:11,903 --> 00:04:13,557 You two look like a pair of breathalyzer tests 69 00:04:13,601 --> 00:04:14,776 waiting to happen. 70 00:04:14,819 --> 00:04:16,778 Well, truth is I have a pretty good shot 71 00:04:16,821 --> 00:04:18,388 at getting a client out of prison. 72 00:04:18,432 --> 00:04:19,998 Guy was put away for life, so... 73 00:04:20,042 --> 00:04:22,871 So what'd you do? You bake him a cake with a hacksaw in it? 74 00:04:22,914 --> 00:04:25,961 [laughter] 75 00:04:26,004 --> 00:04:27,745 One better. Ah. 76 00:04:27,789 --> 00:04:29,878 I discovered the evidence that got him convicted 77 00:04:29,921 --> 00:04:31,401 may have been tampered with. 78 00:04:31,445 --> 00:04:32,750 Seriously?Yeah. 79 00:04:32,794 --> 00:04:34,578 By, uh, the police, or...? 80 00:04:34,622 --> 00:04:35,884 Medical Examiner's Office. 81 00:04:35,927 --> 00:04:37,538 Yeah. I petitioned to have 82 00:04:37,581 --> 00:04:40,236 a client's DNA evidence retested 83 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:43,195 and it came back-- no match, not even close. 84 00:04:43,239 --> 00:04:45,285 Well, who's the medical examiner? 85 00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:47,809 You know Julia Martin? 86 00:04:47,852 --> 00:04:50,551 No, no, no, no. That must be a mistake. 87 00:04:50,594 --> 00:04:52,640 She was picked up this morning. 88 00:04:52,683 --> 00:04:54,685 D.A.'s office thinks it was intentional. 89 00:04:54,729 --> 00:04:56,731 Who is your client? 90 00:04:56,774 --> 00:05:00,561 Remember the "Bathroom Stall Butcher," John Malford? 91 00:05:00,604 --> 00:05:03,955 BULL: I hate trolling for cases. 92 00:05:03,999 --> 00:05:05,653 I like to be asked. 93 00:05:05,696 --> 00:05:07,481 I like to be the one who can say no. 94 00:05:07,524 --> 00:05:10,875 We are not trolling. We are offering our services. 95 00:05:10,919 --> 00:05:14,488 And trust me, so is every other A-list criminal firm in town. 96 00:05:14,531 --> 00:05:16,533 I mean, this is Julia Martin. 97 00:05:16,577 --> 00:05:19,536 Chief Medical Examiner for the City of New York. 98 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:22,626 These are the kinds of cases that get the town talking. 99 00:05:22,670 --> 00:05:26,674 Plus, I know her. There's no way she'd tamper with evidence. 100 00:05:26,717 --> 00:05:28,502 Well, obviously the D.A. doesn't agree with you 101 00:05:28,545 --> 00:05:29,851 or he wouldn't have arrested her. 102 00:05:29,894 --> 00:05:31,548 Plus, I know she has a big title, 103 00:05:31,592 --> 00:05:34,377 but at the end of the day she's just a civil servant. 104 00:05:34,421 --> 00:05:36,161 What are you trying to say? 105 00:05:36,205 --> 00:05:38,033 Well, is this another pro bono situation? 106 00:05:38,076 --> 00:05:41,602 Because, frankly, I've become such a pro at bono, 107 00:05:41,645 --> 00:05:44,779 I'm getting ready to start my own Irish rock band. 108 00:05:47,172 --> 00:05:50,654 You wake up in the morning and you go over in your head 109 00:05:50,698 --> 00:05:53,353 all those hundreds of things that you have to do this week. 110 00:05:53,396 --> 00:05:58,140 It just doesn't occur to you that you might get arrested. 111 00:05:58,183 --> 00:06:00,751 You might spend your first night in jail. 112 00:06:03,493 --> 00:06:06,409 I'm the Chief Medical Examiner for the City of New York. 113 00:06:06,453 --> 00:06:08,063 We want to help you, Julia. 114 00:06:08,106 --> 00:06:11,588 You know I can't afford to pay top-shelf guys like you. 115 00:06:11,632 --> 00:06:12,589 We'll be fine. 116 00:06:12,633 --> 00:06:14,635 Will I be? 117 00:06:14,678 --> 00:06:17,420 I also can't afford for you to do a half-assed job 118 00:06:17,464 --> 00:06:20,031 because you're just in it for the free press. 119 00:06:20,075 --> 00:06:22,425 Keep in mind the best press for everyone 120 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:24,035 is about your ultimate acquittal. 121 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:25,820 You keep that in mind. 122 00:06:28,866 --> 00:06:33,262 All right then, I guess it's the two of you. 123 00:06:33,305 --> 00:06:34,568 Lucky us. 124 00:06:34,611 --> 00:06:37,484 So here's what I know. Six years ago, 125 00:06:37,527 --> 00:06:39,834 when I found that hair in the back of a woman's throat, 126 00:06:39,877 --> 00:06:43,664 it was a perfect match to John Malford's hair, perfect. 127 00:06:43,707 --> 00:06:47,407 100%. I still have the evidence that says so, 128 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:51,062 so I'm not clear exactly why we're here. 129 00:06:51,106 --> 00:06:52,760 The problem is Malford's attorney 130 00:06:52,803 --> 00:06:54,718 was running out of appeals, 131 00:06:54,762 --> 00:06:57,199 so he decided to throw a Hail Mary 132 00:06:57,242 --> 00:06:59,984 and petitioned for a new analysis of the hair, 133 00:07:00,028 --> 00:07:03,161 an outside analysis of the hair. 134 00:07:03,205 --> 00:07:06,600 And when an outside lab tested it, it came back negative. 135 00:07:06,643 --> 00:07:08,340 And after they popped their champagne, 136 00:07:08,384 --> 00:07:11,735 they sent it to three more labs, and it also came back negative. 137 00:07:11,779 --> 00:07:13,781 It didn't match Malford's hair at all. 138 00:07:13,824 --> 00:07:15,826 That's not plausible. 139 00:07:15,870 --> 00:07:19,613 Someone switched the hairs, or they tested the wrong hair. 140 00:07:19,656 --> 00:07:21,528 Julia, it's completely plausible. 141 00:07:21,571 --> 00:07:23,965 You don't have to agree with it, but it's certainly plausible. 142 00:07:24,008 --> 00:07:25,401 No. You're wrong. It isn't. 143 00:07:27,359 --> 00:07:29,797 There's no circumstance under which I would ever 144 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,973 tamper with evidence in any case. 145 00:07:32,016 --> 00:07:33,670 Everyone knows this about me. 146 00:07:33,714 --> 00:07:36,630 No. Everyone does not. 147 00:07:36,673 --> 00:07:39,502 Think about it. 148 00:07:39,546 --> 00:07:42,723 You performed the examination sometime after midnight. 149 00:07:42,766 --> 00:07:44,681 You were alone in the autopsy room, 150 00:07:44,725 --> 00:07:46,770 and lack of plausibility is not the argument 151 00:07:46,814 --> 00:07:48,468 that's gonna win the case for you. 152 00:07:48,511 --> 00:07:51,949 Okay. You know that it was a pubic hair. 153 00:07:51,993 --> 00:07:53,734 Right? It was a man's pubic hair. 154 00:07:53,777 --> 00:07:57,651 I found it in the deepest recesses of her esophagus. 155 00:07:57,694 --> 00:08:01,785 So let's say that I am going to plant a hair. 156 00:08:01,829 --> 00:08:04,179 Where would I have gotten a male pubic hair from? 157 00:08:04,222 --> 00:08:07,225 Oh, come on. Those can't be that hard to come by in the morgue. 158 00:08:07,269 --> 00:08:09,097 Is it possible you made a mistake? 159 00:08:09,140 --> 00:08:11,447 Excuse me?I mean, maybe 160 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:13,667 you thought you found evidence 161 00:08:13,710 --> 00:08:15,886 that was relevant to the case, but it wasn't. 162 00:08:15,930 --> 00:08:17,714 Emily might've 163 00:08:17,758 --> 00:08:20,108 indulged in oral sex with someone else, 164 00:08:20,151 --> 00:08:22,980 consensual contact. You did an autopsy. 165 00:08:23,024 --> 00:08:26,114 You found this hair. It was a mistake. 166 00:08:26,157 --> 00:08:30,466 No, that's not possible. I ran every test that there was. 167 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,903 I ran every test myself. That was his hair. 168 00:08:32,947 --> 00:08:34,122 Keep in mind, 169 00:08:34,165 --> 00:08:36,428 if it was truly a mistake, 170 00:08:36,472 --> 00:08:38,822 then there is no criminal intent. 171 00:08:38,866 --> 00:08:42,739 If there is no criminal intent, then there's no crime. 172 00:08:42,783 --> 00:08:45,220 Mistakes. Everybody makes them. 173 00:08:47,265 --> 00:08:51,269 So you're telling me, if I say that I made a mistake, 174 00:08:51,313 --> 00:08:52,880 the charges might be withdrawn? 175 00:08:52,923 --> 00:08:55,143 Well, it's certainly something I'd like to take to the D.A. 176 00:08:55,186 --> 00:08:57,232 I can't imagine that they would want to go forward 177 00:08:57,275 --> 00:08:58,494 with this trial. 178 00:09:01,149 --> 00:09:03,891 I can't. You can't what? 179 00:09:03,934 --> 00:09:05,153 I can't say that 180 00:09:05,196 --> 00:09:07,590 because I don't make mistakes, 181 00:09:07,634 --> 00:09:09,810 not when it comes to forensic science. 182 00:09:09,853 --> 00:09:14,510 Does that change anything for the two of you? 183 00:09:17,034 --> 00:09:21,691 Just makes the job harder, but we didn't take up the offer 184 00:09:21,735 --> 00:09:23,954 because we thought it was gonna be easy. 185 00:09:23,998 --> 00:09:28,219 We told you we wanted to defend you, and we mean it. 186 00:09:29,743 --> 00:09:31,788 So what's the plan? 187 00:09:31,832 --> 00:09:33,355 Well, to get you out on bail, for starters. 188 00:09:33,398 --> 00:09:35,183 I'll talk to the D.A. in the morning, get a lay 189 00:09:35,226 --> 00:09:37,489 of the land and see what they think they have on you. 190 00:09:37,533 --> 00:09:38,795 Dr. Martin. 191 00:09:40,449 --> 00:09:42,930 Julia. 192 00:09:42,973 --> 00:09:45,976 [knocking] [lock buzzes] 193 00:09:47,891 --> 00:09:48,805 Thank you. 194 00:09:50,851 --> 00:09:53,984 Did you say...Thank you. 195 00:09:54,028 --> 00:09:55,769 You're welcome. 196 00:10:07,650 --> 00:10:09,652 The truth is you know she couldn't have done this. 197 00:10:09,696 --> 00:10:12,437 She'd rather cut off her own arm than give you a false report. 198 00:10:12,481 --> 00:10:13,917 And yet, she did. 199 00:10:13,961 --> 00:10:16,485 You think I'm looking to take down a medical examiner? 200 00:10:16,528 --> 00:10:18,095 We work with them every day. 201 00:10:18,139 --> 00:10:20,010 I've had these results checked and rechecked 202 00:10:20,054 --> 00:10:22,796 with four different labs. She screwed up, 203 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:24,319 which makes all of us look bad. 204 00:10:24,362 --> 00:10:26,060 Have you actually considered the repercussions of this? 205 00:10:26,103 --> 00:10:27,409 You convict the Chief 206 00:10:27,452 --> 00:10:29,454 Medical Examiner for the City of New York, 207 00:10:29,498 --> 00:10:31,761 and you are handing a "get out of jail free" card 208 00:10:31,805 --> 00:10:33,502 to everyone you've ever put behind bars. 209 00:10:33,545 --> 00:10:37,114 You will have a mile-long line of attorneys out your door 210 00:10:37,158 --> 00:10:38,942 claiming that their clients were falsely convicted. 211 00:10:38,986 --> 00:10:40,161 Is that what you want? 212 00:10:42,206 --> 00:10:44,165 Your discovery packet. 213 00:10:44,208 --> 00:10:45,949 Assuming you're still gonna want the case 214 00:10:45,993 --> 00:10:47,429 once you see what's in there. 215 00:10:47,472 --> 00:10:48,909 Okay, what's in there? 216 00:10:48,952 --> 00:10:52,521 Julia's first examination of Emily Baker's corpse, 217 00:10:52,564 --> 00:10:54,131 she came up with nothing. 218 00:10:54,175 --> 00:10:57,265 Okay, so she found the evidence the second time through. 219 00:10:57,308 --> 00:10:58,701 And that's fine, 220 00:10:58,745 --> 00:11:01,008 except she completely deleted the first report. 221 00:11:01,051 --> 00:11:02,705 The one where she came up empty, 222 00:11:02,749 --> 00:11:05,969 just plucked it out of the system like it never happened. 223 00:11:06,013 --> 00:11:07,623 That's a big no-no. 224 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:09,190 Okay. 225 00:11:09,233 --> 00:11:12,410 You know it's a breach of protocol to delete any reports. 226 00:11:12,454 --> 00:11:14,935 Even ones that are later replaced by updated results, 227 00:11:14,978 --> 00:11:16,588 and you know why. 228 00:11:16,632 --> 00:11:20,636 Because it can be construed as consciousness of guilt. 229 00:11:22,333 --> 00:11:24,118 Julia's the best there is. 230 00:11:24,161 --> 00:11:27,948 Do you think she'd accidentally forget protocol? 231 00:11:27,991 --> 00:11:30,341 She couldn't find any evidence on the dead girl, 232 00:11:30,385 --> 00:11:32,735 she decided to take matters into her own hands 233 00:11:32,779 --> 00:11:34,215 and create some. 234 00:11:38,001 --> 00:11:40,656 Oh, here's the bail agreement. 235 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:42,223 Is she on her way?Already here. 236 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:44,529 She and Benny are waiting in your office. 237 00:11:44,573 --> 00:11:48,359 Assistant District Attorney Williams is not your friend. 238 00:11:48,403 --> 00:11:50,144 I never said that he was. 239 00:11:50,187 --> 00:11:53,016 He's claiming you destroyed an official autopsy report. 240 00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:57,629 Did you write an official report stating that you didn't find 241 00:11:57,673 --> 00:12:00,807 any physical evidence after your examination of Emily Baker 242 00:12:00,850 --> 00:12:03,853 and then delete that report from the official citywide records? 243 00:12:03,897 --> 00:12:05,420 Yes. 244 00:12:05,463 --> 00:12:07,248 It was... 245 00:12:07,291 --> 00:12:08,815 years ago. I mean... 246 00:12:08,858 --> 00:12:11,121 You have to know how bad that's gonna look to a jury. 247 00:12:11,165 --> 00:12:12,775 That first report was useless. 248 00:12:12,819 --> 00:12:15,256 It only said that I didn't find anything. 249 00:12:15,299 --> 00:12:16,823 Yes, but in a court of law, 250 00:12:16,866 --> 00:12:20,000 it's going to look like a prior inconsistent statement. 251 00:12:20,043 --> 00:12:22,785 You weren't supposed to delete it. 252 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:26,267 You were supposed to keep it and turn it over in discovery. 253 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:27,877 No, I wasn't gonna do that. 254 00:12:27,921 --> 00:12:29,879 Malford's lawyers would've just used it 255 00:12:29,923 --> 00:12:33,927 to-to call in to question the evidence that I did find. 256 00:12:33,970 --> 00:12:35,363 I know how these people operate. 257 00:12:35,406 --> 00:12:39,671 Julia, that first report is still evidence. 258 00:12:39,715 --> 00:12:41,456 You can't just destroy evidence 259 00:12:41,499 --> 00:12:43,066 because it doesn't suit your needs. 260 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:46,853 Okay, technically, that first report was about an absence 261 00:12:46,896 --> 00:12:49,464 of evidence, which isn't really evidence. 262 00:12:49,507 --> 00:12:51,031 Okay, all right. 263 00:12:51,074 --> 00:12:53,598 The bottom line is, and-and I know 264 00:12:53,642 --> 00:12:56,036 you couldn't see the future from where you were standing, 265 00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:58,342 you didn't do yourself any favors. 266 00:12:58,386 --> 00:13:01,955 The D.A.'s office is gonna say that you intentionally deleted 267 00:13:01,998 --> 00:13:04,609 that report to make it easier for you 268 00:13:04,653 --> 00:13:06,046 to intentionally plant the evidence. 269 00:13:06,089 --> 00:13:07,874 But that isn't what actually happened. 270 00:13:07,917 --> 00:13:10,093 Even if it looks like that's what happened. 271 00:13:10,137 --> 00:13:12,487 It really boils down to this: either you made a mistake, 272 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:15,490 or someone, quite possibly you, is guilty of malfeasance. 273 00:13:15,533 --> 00:13:18,101 BENNY: Well, Danny's already looking into malfeasance. 274 00:13:18,145 --> 00:13:21,626 She's trying to find anyone with the means and motive 275 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:22,976 to have switched out the hairs. 276 00:13:23,019 --> 00:13:26,849 Which in the meantime leaves us with: mistake. 277 00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:28,851 As I've already explained to you, 278 00:13:28,895 --> 00:13:31,419 I don't make those kinds of mistakes. 279 00:13:31,462 --> 00:13:33,290 Well, then someone else did. 280 00:13:34,901 --> 00:13:36,816 In either event, we need to follow chain of custody. 281 00:13:36,859 --> 00:13:40,820 I need to know everyone who had access to that hair. 282 00:13:40,863 --> 00:13:42,909 Julia, can you talk to my investigator, 283 00:13:42,952 --> 00:13:45,912 talk to her about how evidence is catalogued and stored, 284 00:13:45,955 --> 00:13:47,783 who had access, how they get access? 285 00:13:47,827 --> 00:13:49,393 Of course. Excellent. 286 00:13:49,437 --> 00:13:52,962 Well, then, Mr. Colón and I will see you in court 287 00:13:53,006 --> 00:13:55,008 later this afternoon. 288 00:13:56,661 --> 00:13:58,489 Everything all right? 289 00:13:58,533 --> 00:14:00,535 I guess. 290 00:14:00,578 --> 00:14:03,886 I just realized I don't know where to go. 291 00:14:03,930 --> 00:14:06,671 And what to do until court. 292 00:14:06,715 --> 00:14:09,761 You know, my first instinct is to rush back to the morgue 293 00:14:09,805 --> 00:14:13,374 and then I remembered that I can't. 294 00:14:19,684 --> 00:14:21,686 Not to worry. 295 00:14:23,950 --> 00:14:25,908 It is gonna be tough to find jurors 296 00:14:25,952 --> 00:14:27,257 who aren't put off by our client. 297 00:14:27,301 --> 00:14:28,911 Mm. 298 00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:32,872 Maybe we should look for people who only see the best in others. 299 00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:36,049 Actually, I was thinking just the opposite. 300 00:14:36,092 --> 00:14:39,095 What? People who only see the worst? 301 00:14:39,139 --> 00:14:41,141 You ever heard of Hanlon's razor? 302 00:14:41,184 --> 00:14:42,185 No. 303 00:14:42,229 --> 00:14:43,839 "Never attribute to malice 304 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:46,668 that which is adequately explained by stupidity." 305 00:14:46,711 --> 00:14:49,279 We need people who will look at this situation 306 00:14:49,323 --> 00:14:53,109 Julia's gotten into and think, "This isn't some big conspiracy. 307 00:14:53,153 --> 00:14:56,112 This is probably just someone's stupid mistake." 308 00:14:56,156 --> 00:14:58,114 Good afternoon. 309 00:14:58,158 --> 00:15:02,205 So let's say you send an e-mail to your boss 310 00:15:02,249 --> 00:15:03,903 asking him for time off. 311 00:15:03,946 --> 00:15:06,644 A day goes by and he doesn't respond. 312 00:15:06,688 --> 00:15:08,037 What do you make of that? 313 00:15:08,081 --> 00:15:09,865 He's busy. 314 00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:11,475 I like her. Tell me why I shouldn't. 315 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:13,216 MARISSA: Jennifer Thomas, single mom, 316 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:17,046 43 years old, two kids and you are going to hate this: 317 00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:20,136 she works at an insurance company as a claims manager. 318 00:15:23,096 --> 00:15:25,054 Can I pick 'em or can I pick 'em? 319 00:15:25,098 --> 00:15:28,405 Probably spends her days looking at inflated insurance claims. 320 00:15:28,449 --> 00:15:30,973 She's the very definition of what we don't want. 321 00:15:31,017 --> 00:15:32,714 We'd like to thank and excuse this juror, Your Honor. 322 00:15:35,456 --> 00:15:37,414 Personally? 323 00:15:37,458 --> 00:15:40,156 I hate it when people don't respond to my e-mails. 324 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,766 Why is that? 325 00:15:41,810 --> 00:15:44,944 Well, they're trying to tell me that I don't matter. 326 00:15:46,336 --> 00:15:48,295 I guess I figured he didn't get the e-mail, 327 00:15:48,338 --> 00:15:50,471 or maybe he deleted it by accident. 328 00:15:50,514 --> 00:15:53,474 Because anyone can make an honest mistake, right? 329 00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:54,736 Sure. 330 00:15:57,043 --> 00:15:59,393 This juror's acceptable to the defense, Your Honor. 331 00:15:59,436 --> 00:16:03,005 Then, ladies and gentlemen, we have our jury. 332 00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:05,007 Trial will commence tomorrow morning. 333 00:16:05,051 --> 00:16:06,226 Court is adjourned. 334 00:16:08,271 --> 00:16:10,360 This thing that you're doing, it's not gonna work. 335 00:16:10,404 --> 00:16:13,233 I didn't make a mistake. I don't make mistakes. 336 00:16:13,276 --> 00:16:16,149 You're making one now. 337 00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:18,499 DANNY: So you were the lab tech on the Malford autopsies? 338 00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:20,153 It made my career. Julia's, too. 339 00:16:20,196 --> 00:16:22,329 I hear she's a tough boss. 340 00:16:22,372 --> 00:16:24,505 She's a little uptight. 341 00:16:24,548 --> 00:16:26,855 But honestly, that's what you need around here. 342 00:16:26,898 --> 00:16:28,030 And who handled the evidence 343 00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:29,205 besides Julia? 344 00:16:29,249 --> 00:16:30,641 No one. 345 00:16:30,685 --> 00:16:32,295 Really? 346 00:16:32,339 --> 00:16:35,211 Julia insisted on doing it all herself. 347 00:16:35,255 --> 00:16:37,039 All of it? 348 00:16:37,083 --> 00:16:39,041 She was certified to test DNA? 349 00:16:39,085 --> 00:16:42,262 She's kind of a control freak. 350 00:16:42,305 --> 00:16:46,092 So she put the hair in the bag, tested it, sealed it, 351 00:16:46,135 --> 00:16:48,311 signed it into the storage locker all by herself? 352 00:16:49,878 --> 00:16:51,401 WILLIAMS: Dr. Henson, 353 00:16:51,445 --> 00:16:53,664 you were the defendant's supervisor 354 00:16:53,708 --> 00:16:55,318 during the Malford investigation. 355 00:16:55,362 --> 00:16:58,060 There was a team of us working on it, 356 00:16:58,104 --> 00:17:00,410 looking for something of forensic value. 357 00:17:00,454 --> 00:17:02,586 And you didn't find anything, did you? 358 00:17:02,630 --> 00:17:04,023 No. 359 00:17:04,066 --> 00:17:06,242 But then, something happened. 360 00:17:06,286 --> 00:17:10,507 Dr. Martin stayed on after we completed the autopsy. 361 00:17:10,551 --> 00:17:12,988 A few hours later, she notified me, 362 00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:15,121 said she found a hair. 363 00:17:15,164 --> 00:17:17,210 We were all stunned. 364 00:17:17,253 --> 00:17:18,689 Why? 365 00:17:18,733 --> 00:17:21,736 Well, we had searched every inch of the victim's body. 366 00:17:21,779 --> 00:17:23,825 But you were pleased. Of course. 367 00:17:23,868 --> 00:17:25,305 We all wanted to put an end 368 00:17:25,348 --> 00:17:28,221 to this horrible string of sexual attacks and murders. 369 00:17:28,264 --> 00:17:31,224 So you were proud of Dr. Martin? 370 00:17:31,267 --> 00:17:34,227 I was proud of our unit. 371 00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:38,013 I sense some hesitation on your behalf 372 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:40,015 with regard to Dr. Martin. 373 00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:43,323 She has always been very diligent. 374 00:17:43,366 --> 00:17:44,715 Very determined. 375 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:48,980 But frankly, she was very hard on people. 376 00:17:49,024 --> 00:17:51,244 She could be quite arrogant. 377 00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:53,463 [gallery murmuring] 378 00:17:53,507 --> 00:17:55,161 Thank you. 379 00:17:55,204 --> 00:17:56,684 Nothing further. 380 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:01,123 [sighs, clears throat] 381 00:18:01,167 --> 00:18:03,560 Good morning, Dr. Henson. 382 00:18:03,604 --> 00:18:05,519 I just need you 383 00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:07,521 to clear something up. 384 00:18:07,564 --> 00:18:09,436 You know, in the whole time that you ran 385 00:18:09,479 --> 00:18:13,875 the medical examiner's office, you never once did complain 386 00:18:13,918 --> 00:18:17,096 about my client's job performance, did you? 387 00:18:17,139 --> 00:18:19,663 Not in any performance review, 388 00:18:19,707 --> 00:18:22,405 not even casually, in a face-to-face with her, say, 389 00:18:22,449 --> 00:18:24,233 in your office? 390 00:18:24,277 --> 00:18:25,452 No. 391 00:18:25,495 --> 00:18:27,758 And isn't it true that she replaced you? 392 00:18:27,802 --> 00:18:30,805 That she went from being your subordinate to your supervisor? 393 00:18:30,848 --> 00:18:32,894 That's not how I would describe it. 394 00:18:32,937 --> 00:18:35,549 Ah, well, how would you describe it? 395 00:18:35,592 --> 00:18:39,379 I mean, uh, one day, she's working for you, 396 00:18:39,422 --> 00:18:42,382 and the next day, she's your boss. 397 00:18:42,425 --> 00:18:45,080 It stands to reason that you probably harbor 398 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:47,517 some resentment towards Dr. Martin, wouldn't you say? 399 00:18:47,561 --> 00:18:48,779 Objection. 400 00:18:48,823 --> 00:18:50,781 Ask another question. 401 00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:54,916 I mean, she fired you. 402 00:18:54,959 --> 00:18:56,047 Didn't she? 403 00:18:56,091 --> 00:18:57,136 Objection. 404 00:18:57,179 --> 00:18:59,007 What's the relevance? 405 00:18:59,050 --> 00:19:00,791 It goes to bias, Your Honor. 406 00:19:00,835 --> 00:19:04,273 Dr. Henson is using this courtroom to settle a score. 407 00:19:04,317 --> 00:19:06,188 JUDGE: Overruled. 408 00:19:06,232 --> 00:19:07,668 Please answer the question. 409 00:19:07,711 --> 00:19:11,237 We had differences of opinion on a number of cases. 410 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,066 But she has the right to work with whomever she chooses. 411 00:19:16,851 --> 00:19:21,029 I will admit that I did not like the way she operated the unit. 412 00:19:21,072 --> 00:19:25,512 In my opinion, she was obsessive. 413 00:19:25,555 --> 00:19:27,818 Determined to solve any case, no matter what. 414 00:19:27,862 --> 00:19:32,127 Sometimes even if the forensics did not bear her out. 415 00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:33,955 BENNY: But again, 416 00:19:33,998 --> 00:19:36,392 that is your opinion. 417 00:19:36,436 --> 00:19:41,397 The opinion of the man she replaced and ultimately fired. 418 00:19:43,486 --> 00:19:45,053 Just my opinion. 419 00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:47,621 No further questions, Your Honor. 420 00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:53,714 This is the last of it. 421 00:19:53,757 --> 00:19:56,847 Every piece of information about the hair that exists. 422 00:19:56,891 --> 00:19:59,328 Your original analysis, your second analysis, 423 00:19:59,372 --> 00:20:03,027 the independent analysis, photos, storage data. 424 00:20:08,729 --> 00:20:10,687 Anything jumping out at you? 425 00:20:10,731 --> 00:20:12,515 Not yet. 426 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:14,691 I'm not trying to get out of anything, but honestly, 427 00:20:14,735 --> 00:20:17,216 I have no idea what I'm reading here. 428 00:20:17,259 --> 00:20:18,478 Just give it to me. 429 00:20:19,522 --> 00:20:21,524 You, too. Give me yours. 430 00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:29,924 [exhales] 431 00:20:29,967 --> 00:20:33,014 You don't have to sit here. I don't need a babysitter. 432 00:20:36,147 --> 00:20:37,453 I'll be in my office. 433 00:20:37,497 --> 00:20:39,368 I'll be in my bed. 434 00:20:52,425 --> 00:20:53,600 [door opens] 435 00:20:55,210 --> 00:20:57,125 Should I come back? 436 00:20:57,168 --> 00:20:59,301 Of course not. What's up? 437 00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:00,563 Pollen. 438 00:21:00,607 --> 00:21:02,522 Excuse me? 439 00:21:02,565 --> 00:21:04,785 The hair all the outside labs have been testing 440 00:21:04,828 --> 00:21:07,091 is covered with pollen. 441 00:21:07,135 --> 00:21:09,442 And that matters because...? 442 00:21:09,485 --> 00:21:11,357 Well, to begin with, it makes me wonder 443 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,750 whether the hair is actually a pubic hair at all. 444 00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:17,145 And if so, how it possibly came into contact with pollen. 445 00:21:17,188 --> 00:21:20,540 Well, I'm sure, with a little imagination, 446 00:21:20,583 --> 00:21:22,716 someone will come up with a scenario. 447 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:26,241 Emily was murdered in the dead of winter. 448 00:21:27,982 --> 00:21:30,506 And in the dead of winter, there is no pollen. 449 00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:35,511 This is not the hair I found on Emily's body. 450 00:21:42,736 --> 00:21:44,128 CHUNK: Dr. Martin, 451 00:21:44,172 --> 00:21:45,695 isn't it true that the night that you 452 00:21:45,739 --> 00:21:49,177 found the sole piece of DNA evidence against Mr. Malford, 453 00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:51,353 that everyone had gone home 454 00:21:51,397 --> 00:21:54,138 and you were completely alone with the victim's body? 455 00:21:54,182 --> 00:21:56,750 Yes. And do you regularly 456 00:21:56,793 --> 00:21:58,969 perform autopsies alone, 457 00:21:59,013 --> 00:22:01,363 late at night, when everyone's gone home for the day? 458 00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:02,625 Yes. 459 00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:04,497 And why is that? 460 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,326 I have a really particular skill set, 461 00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:09,371 and I find that skill set works best 462 00:22:09,415 --> 00:22:11,330 when there's just two of us in the room. 463 00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:13,680 Myself, and the cadaver. 464 00:22:13,723 --> 00:22:17,640 Other people really just end up being distractions. 465 00:22:17,684 --> 00:22:20,382 All right. Let's talk about that. 466 00:22:20,426 --> 00:22:22,558 When you say that other people are distractions, 467 00:22:22,602 --> 00:22:26,083 it sounds very... negative. 468 00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,302 Very dismissive. 469 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:28,912 One could easily get the impression 470 00:22:28,956 --> 00:22:31,132 that you just don't like people. 471 00:22:31,175 --> 00:22:34,483 And we want the jurors to like you. 472 00:22:34,527 --> 00:22:37,094 And it helps if they think you might like them. 473 00:22:37,138 --> 00:22:40,359 [exhales] I don't know them. 474 00:22:40,402 --> 00:22:41,664 Of course. 475 00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:46,408 Okay, um, let's forget that line of thinking. 476 00:22:46,452 --> 00:22:48,976 Here's another reason why saying you find 477 00:22:49,019 --> 00:22:52,196 other people distracting might not serve your best interests: 478 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,198 anything that makes it sound like you don't like 479 00:22:54,242 --> 00:22:56,418 having people around when you do your work 480 00:22:56,462 --> 00:22:58,420 might make the jurors think that you don't 481 00:22:58,464 --> 00:23:01,205 want company because it makes it harder 482 00:23:01,249 --> 00:23:03,512 to manipulate evidence. 483 00:23:05,209 --> 00:23:06,863 You see that, right? 484 00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:09,431 I don't manipulate evidence. I know that. 485 00:23:09,475 --> 00:23:11,955 But you're-you're talking to people who don't know you. 486 00:23:11,999 --> 00:23:15,394 So how would you suggest I answer that? 487 00:23:15,437 --> 00:23:19,223 Well, maybe there's another reason you work late 488 00:23:19,267 --> 00:23:21,443 that wouldn't lead them to the same conclusion. 489 00:23:21,487 --> 00:23:25,099 Maybe you find it impossible to sleep 490 00:23:25,142 --> 00:23:26,448 when there are grieving friends and relatives 491 00:23:26,492 --> 00:23:28,407 out there waiting for answers 492 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:31,235 as to what happened to their loved ones? 493 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:34,413 I can't say that. That's-that's not the truth. 494 00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:36,023 Maybe there's a truth 495 00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:39,069 that's more palatable to the jury. 496 00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:44,466 Mr. Palmer, I'm a scientist, and scientists deal with facts. 497 00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:48,078 There is one truth, there's one right answer. 498 00:23:48,122 --> 00:23:52,474 If you ask me a question, I am going to give you that truth. 499 00:23:52,518 --> 00:23:54,563 As to whether it's palatable, 500 00:23:54,607 --> 00:23:56,783 that's not something I've ever concerned myself with. 501 00:23:56,826 --> 00:23:58,915 Well, it ought to be, because you're gonna be spending 502 00:23:58,959 --> 00:24:01,483 ten years in prison for something that you didn't do 503 00:24:01,527 --> 00:24:03,572 if we can't make the jury understand 504 00:24:03,616 --> 00:24:05,226 your side of the story. 505 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:07,794 Okay, again, there is no "my side" of the story. 506 00:24:07,837 --> 00:24:09,186 There is what happened, 507 00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:11,450 and there is what did not happen. 508 00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:15,018 There is truth and fact, and there is falsehood. 509 00:24:15,062 --> 00:24:18,544 You can't spin the truth, you cannot polish it up 510 00:24:18,587 --> 00:24:21,460 or put lipstick on a pig, which is what I feel like 511 00:24:21,503 --> 00:24:22,722 you're trying to do to me right now. 512 00:24:22,765 --> 00:24:24,463 I am what I am. 513 00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,595 I did what I did, and I don't regret a minute of it 514 00:24:26,639 --> 00:24:30,512 because I did it all by the book. 515 00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,993 So are we done here? 516 00:24:33,036 --> 00:24:36,257 It certainly seems that way. 517 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:37,693 You talk to Chunk?Sure did. 518 00:24:37,737 --> 00:24:39,565 You still want to put her on the stand? 519 00:24:39,608 --> 00:24:41,001 I do. 520 00:24:41,044 --> 00:24:42,916 He said that she's fundamentally incapable 521 00:24:42,959 --> 00:24:45,527 of shading her answers even one iota. 522 00:24:45,571 --> 00:24:48,399 Even at the risk of sending herself to prison. 523 00:24:48,443 --> 00:24:50,358 I'm waiting for the bad news. 524 00:24:50,401 --> 00:24:52,578 I'm pretty sure I just gave you the bad news. 525 00:24:52,621 --> 00:24:55,276 So the truth is, this woman can't even fudge the facts 526 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:56,973 to keep herself out of jail. 527 00:24:57,017 --> 00:24:59,541 Now we just have to get a jury to understand that that means 528 00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:01,587 she couldn't possibly have fudged them 529 00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:04,111 to put someone else behind bars. 530 00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:05,547 BENNY: We've heard a lot 531 00:25:05,591 --> 00:25:08,681 about the fact that you like to work alone 532 00:25:08,724 --> 00:25:10,683 and often late at night. 533 00:25:10,726 --> 00:25:12,554 Can you please tell us 534 00:25:12,598 --> 00:25:15,209 why that's your practice, Dr. Martin? 535 00:25:15,252 --> 00:25:19,039 I'm not good with people. 536 00:25:20,736 --> 00:25:23,086 I know how that sounds. 537 00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:25,393 Trust me, it's not made me a lot of friends. 538 00:25:25,436 --> 00:25:27,526 [soft laughter] 539 00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,702 But I am good at my job. 540 00:25:29,745 --> 00:25:32,139 I'm great at my job. 541 00:25:32,182 --> 00:25:34,228 And in order to be the best at my job, 542 00:25:34,271 --> 00:25:36,012 I have to be able to concentrate. 543 00:25:36,056 --> 00:25:38,972 I have to know that every single step of that process 544 00:25:39,015 --> 00:25:42,279 was done with precision and care. 545 00:25:42,323 --> 00:25:44,934 And if I do every step myself, I don't have to worry 546 00:25:44,978 --> 00:25:46,588 that it wasn't done properly. 547 00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:49,504 I don't have to worry 548 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,985 that I offended someone because I criticized them 549 00:25:52,028 --> 00:25:53,987 for making a mistake. 550 00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:55,597 Or that I forgot to praise someone 551 00:25:55,641 --> 00:25:57,773 for just doing their job. 552 00:25:57,817 --> 00:26:02,430 So what do you say to the allegations 553 00:26:02,473 --> 00:26:04,650 that you falsified evidence 554 00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:07,609 in order to get a conviction against John Malford? 555 00:26:07,653 --> 00:26:10,003 I would say that's ridiculous. 556 00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:12,440 I don't care about John Malford. 557 00:26:12,483 --> 00:26:15,051 I have never cared about who gets convicted. 558 00:26:15,095 --> 00:26:17,445 That's not a win for me. 559 00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:20,230 A win for me is finding the right answer. 560 00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:23,973 It's solving the puzzle, it's making the crime stop. 561 00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:26,628 I do crosswords a lot. 562 00:26:26,672 --> 00:26:29,675 And they have these new apps now. 563 00:26:29,718 --> 00:26:32,721 If you get stuck, you can prompt it, and it'll give you a word, 564 00:26:32,765 --> 00:26:34,331 or it will give you a letter. 565 00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:37,465 And I would... I would just never do that. 566 00:26:37,508 --> 00:26:40,120 I would never want to do that, 567 00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:43,340 because having a filled-out crossword, 568 00:26:43,384 --> 00:26:45,734 that does nothing for me. 569 00:26:45,778 --> 00:26:50,783 But solving it myself, that's the part that's satisfying. 570 00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:55,657 So no, I would never falsify evidence to get a conviction, 571 00:26:55,701 --> 00:26:59,182 because then I would never really know who did it. 572 00:26:59,226 --> 00:27:01,707 I wouldn't solve the puzzle. 573 00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:05,754 If you cheat, you never find the truth. 574 00:27:09,192 --> 00:27:10,759 Marissa? 575 00:27:10,803 --> 00:27:12,456 MARISSA: No movement yet, 576 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,894 but they clearly want to believe her. 577 00:27:14,937 --> 00:27:17,592 Baby steps. 578 00:27:19,072 --> 00:27:22,641 I'm starting to think Chunk doesn't know his own strength. 579 00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:24,425 Kept telling me she was hopeless, but he actually 580 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:27,646 turned her into a very effective witness. 581 00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:32,346 Ah, speak of the devil. Oh... 582 00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:34,696 What have we here? 583 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,611 TAYLOR: Well, 584 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,787 I wasn't able to connect Malford directly to any of the people 585 00:27:38,831 --> 00:27:40,702 who worked at the medical examiner's office, 586 00:27:40,746 --> 00:27:43,357 but then Danny had a great idea. DANNY: Serial killers 587 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,576 like Malford tend to attract obsessive fans. 588 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:47,143 Total strangers who begin to believe they have 589 00:27:47,187 --> 00:27:49,363 an intimate relationship with these killers. 590 00:27:49,406 --> 00:27:51,365 Excessive adoration disorder. 591 00:27:51,408 --> 00:27:53,541 Oh, yeah. I've heard of this. 592 00:27:53,584 --> 00:27:57,284 Crazy ladies who marry prisoners they've never met before. 593 00:27:57,327 --> 00:27:59,678 Well, they're not all ladies and they don't all get married, 594 00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:02,376 but yes, that's what we're talking about. 595 00:28:02,419 --> 00:28:03,812 Malford hasn't had a jailhouse wedding yet, 596 00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:06,293 but he does have quite the fan club. 597 00:28:06,336 --> 00:28:08,599 TAYLOR: Our guy's gotten thousands of letters, 598 00:28:08,643 --> 00:28:10,558 and he's responded to hundreds of them. 599 00:28:10,601 --> 00:28:12,473 CHUNK: The good news is, Sing Sing keeps a scan 600 00:28:12,516 --> 00:28:13,692 of all incoming and outgoing mail, 601 00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:15,911 and they gave Taylor access. 602 00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:18,174 Any one of these admirers sound like they'd be willing 603 00:28:18,218 --> 00:28:19,741 to help Malford break out of prison? 604 00:28:19,785 --> 00:28:20,960 TAYLOR: Oh, yeah. 605 00:28:21,003 --> 00:28:22,744 There's no shortage of those. 606 00:28:22,788 --> 00:28:25,094 But we're still talking about over two dozen people. 607 00:28:25,138 --> 00:28:26,705 The math is not encouraging. 608 00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:28,532 More than 80 people had access 609 00:28:28,576 --> 00:28:30,578 to the evidence storage facility. 610 00:28:30,621 --> 00:28:32,145 More than two dozen crazies writing love letters. 611 00:28:32,188 --> 00:28:34,887 BENNY: That's a lot of leads 612 00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:37,280 to be running down in the middle of a trial. 613 00:28:37,324 --> 00:28:39,239 We don't have the time. 614 00:28:39,282 --> 00:28:40,893 I'm betting a day, maybe two, 615 00:28:40,936 --> 00:28:44,113 before the judge forces us to rest our case. 616 00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:46,899 Maybe we should just go right to the source. 617 00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:49,510 Excuse me? 618 00:28:49,553 --> 00:28:51,860 See how early Benny and I can get into Sing Sing tomorrow 619 00:28:51,904 --> 00:28:53,775 to talk with John Malford. 620 00:28:53,819 --> 00:28:56,778 Uh-- John Malford? Seriously? 621 00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:59,868 Yeah. Sometimes the shortest distance between two points 622 00:28:59,912 --> 00:29:01,478 is a straight line. 623 00:29:01,522 --> 00:29:03,829 We need to figure out who's helping this guy 624 00:29:03,872 --> 00:29:07,484 break out of prison; why don't we just go ask him? 625 00:29:16,232 --> 00:29:17,756 So what's the game plan here, boss? 626 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:19,845 I just want to look him in the eye, see what I see. 627 00:29:19,888 --> 00:29:21,847 Maybe he'll offer something useful, maybe he won't. 628 00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:24,501 Serial killers tend to be outsized narcissists. 629 00:29:24,545 --> 00:29:27,113 Nothing they like to talk about more than themselves. 630 00:29:27,156 --> 00:29:29,376 I just want to get him talking. 631 00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:35,948 Ryan, good to see you. 632 00:29:35,991 --> 00:29:37,906 I didn't know you'd be joining us. 633 00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:39,125 Benny, Dr. Bull, pleasure. 634 00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:42,998 When the prison informed me you'd requested a meeting, 635 00:29:43,042 --> 00:29:44,783 I thought it wise to sit in. 636 00:29:44,826 --> 00:29:46,088 BULL: Of course. 637 00:29:46,132 --> 00:29:47,916 Just to be clear, this was all very last minute. 638 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,092 Nobody's trying to pull a fast one... 639 00:29:50,136 --> 00:29:51,920 Never even crossed my mind. 640 00:29:51,964 --> 00:29:54,009 Just want to be certain everyone remembers, 641 00:29:54,053 --> 00:29:55,924 my client isn't on trial. 642 00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:57,230 Yours is. 643 00:29:57,273 --> 00:30:00,015 Oh, I think we're all very clear about that. 644 00:30:02,017 --> 00:30:03,584 You must be Mr. Malford. 645 00:30:03,627 --> 00:30:05,629 Yeah. John. 646 00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:07,022 Who are you? 647 00:30:07,066 --> 00:30:08,110 RYAN: These are the gentlemen representing 648 00:30:08,154 --> 00:30:09,677 the medical examiner 649 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,853 who falsified the evidence that got you locked up, John. 650 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:13,246 Hmm. 651 00:30:13,289 --> 00:30:14,900 RYAN: So... 652 00:30:14,943 --> 00:30:16,815 what can we do for you? 653 00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:18,381 Well, we just wanted to get a look at the man 654 00:30:18,425 --> 00:30:20,557 who's at the center of our case. 655 00:30:20,601 --> 00:30:22,429 How you holding up in here, John? 656 00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:24,605 Holding up good. 657 00:30:24,648 --> 00:30:27,782 Working out, food's okay. 658 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:29,784 How's your head? 659 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,656 You lonely? You have any friends? 660 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,920 Oh, yeah. I got friends. 661 00:30:34,963 --> 00:30:36,791 [laughs softly] Inside and outside. 662 00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:38,619 BULL: Aha. 663 00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:40,621 How do you mean, "outside"? 664 00:30:40,664 --> 00:30:41,883 Oh, you know. 665 00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:46,496 I get letters, pictures. People want to visit. 666 00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:50,500 Want to, um, make friends. 667 00:30:50,544 --> 00:30:52,894 Women. Mm. 668 00:30:52,938 --> 00:30:57,072 Oh. That sounds like a... great life. 669 00:30:57,116 --> 00:31:00,641 Some of those pictures are naked. 670 00:31:00,684 --> 00:31:02,948 RYAN: So, you two working for the prison now? 671 00:31:02,991 --> 00:31:05,733 Hmm? Conducting a customer satisfaction survey? 672 00:31:05,776 --> 00:31:07,996 The point is, John here's been a model prisoner, 673 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,042 he's adapted to prison life flawlessly. 674 00:31:10,085 --> 00:31:13,567 Not a black mark on his record to hinder his appeal. 675 00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:16,483 Ah. Right. John's appeal. 676 00:31:16,526 --> 00:31:18,920 Hey, I-I've got to ask, 677 00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:21,618 why even bother with the appeal? 678 00:31:21,662 --> 00:31:23,751 You seem so content. 679 00:31:23,794 --> 00:31:25,100 Because he's innocent. 680 00:31:25,144 --> 00:31:27,146 JOHN: What do I care 681 00:31:27,189 --> 00:31:30,149 if this guy wants to push some papers around? 682 00:31:30,192 --> 00:31:31,411 No skin off my back. 683 00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:32,934 I mean, what's the worst thing that happens? 684 00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:36,111 I actually... get out? 685 00:31:36,155 --> 00:31:38,984 You're right. 686 00:31:39,027 --> 00:31:40,724 No harm, no foul. 687 00:31:40,768 --> 00:31:44,293 This has been great. 688 00:31:44,337 --> 00:31:47,383 Really... helpful. 689 00:31:47,427 --> 00:31:49,168 Mr. Vance. 690 00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:51,387 Mr. Malford. 691 00:31:53,694 --> 00:31:55,870 Hey, why'd you cut bait like that? 692 00:31:55,914 --> 00:31:57,959 The guy was just warming up. 693 00:31:58,003 --> 00:32:00,135 Maybe we could've gotten a name, 694 00:32:00,179 --> 00:32:02,311 maybe found our inside man at the morgue. 695 00:32:02,355 --> 00:32:05,053 There is no name. 696 00:32:05,097 --> 00:32:06,750 There is no inside man at the morgue. 697 00:32:06,794 --> 00:32:07,969 How do you mean? 698 00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:09,928 [sighs] 699 00:32:09,971 --> 00:32:12,191 Did Malford seem like he'd even contemplated 700 00:32:12,234 --> 00:32:13,714 life outside of prison? 701 00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:16,369 No. It didn't seem like 702 00:32:16,412 --> 00:32:18,937 he actually cared much about his appeal at all. 703 00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:20,982 Exactly. He also showed very little interest 704 00:32:21,026 --> 00:32:22,201 in Julia's case. 705 00:32:22,244 --> 00:32:24,420 Now, if this guy spent the last six years 706 00:32:24,464 --> 00:32:27,858 hatching this scheme and manipulating some admirer 707 00:32:27,902 --> 00:32:29,295 to do his bidding, don't you think he'd be 708 00:32:29,338 --> 00:32:31,297 a little more invested in the fruits of his labor? 709 00:32:31,340 --> 00:32:33,821 So, Malford didn't do it? 710 00:32:33,864 --> 00:32:36,084 Malford didn't change the evidence? 711 00:32:36,128 --> 00:32:37,520 Back to square one? 712 00:32:37,564 --> 00:32:40,480 Maybe not. 713 00:32:40,523 --> 00:32:43,091 Malford might have no interest in Julia's case, 714 00:32:43,135 --> 00:32:46,312 but someone put this thing in motion. 715 00:32:46,355 --> 00:32:48,314 Who do you mean? 716 00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:51,752 Ryan? No. 717 00:32:51,795 --> 00:32:54,450 Ryan's his lawyer. He's just doing his job. 718 00:32:54,494 --> 00:32:57,366 You don't think it strange that he was there 719 00:32:57,410 --> 00:33:00,152 at that meeting just now, or that he has been 720 00:33:00,195 --> 00:33:02,719 in court every day of Julia's trial? 721 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,375 I don't know, Bull. 722 00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:10,249 Ryan is not my favorite guy, 723 00:33:10,292 --> 00:33:13,121 but what does he care if Julia goes down? 724 00:33:13,165 --> 00:33:15,254 I'm not sure. 725 00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:16,864 I'm just telling you what I see. 726 00:33:23,088 --> 00:33:24,263 Since we moved off the fangirl theory 727 00:33:24,306 --> 00:33:26,134 and onto Malford's lawyer, 728 00:33:26,178 --> 00:33:27,918 I circled back to the 80 people 729 00:33:27,962 --> 00:33:29,833 who had access to the evidence storage facility 730 00:33:29,877 --> 00:33:31,835 at the medical examiner's office to see if I could 731 00:33:31,879 --> 00:33:33,402 try to find some kind of link. 732 00:33:33,446 --> 00:33:35,839 We never did do a deep dive into any of their finances, 733 00:33:35,883 --> 00:33:37,450 because Malford was broke, 734 00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,495 so it didn't seem particularly relevant. 735 00:33:39,539 --> 00:33:43,499 But Malford's attorney, Mr. Ryan Vance, Esquire, is not. 736 00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:45,197 He has plenty of money to pay off 737 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,981 an overworked, underpaid lab tech. 738 00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,809 Like Skylar Brown. 739 00:33:48,852 --> 00:33:51,594 Skylar was wrestling with a significant amount of debt. 740 00:33:51,638 --> 00:33:53,727 She maxed out four credit cards and has 741 00:33:53,770 --> 00:33:55,294 two delinquent homeowner loans. 742 00:33:55,337 --> 00:33:57,513 But, coincidentally, Skylar seems to have had 743 00:33:57,557 --> 00:33:59,472 a financial windfall, 744 00:33:59,515 --> 00:34:01,126 just three weeks prior 745 00:34:01,169 --> 00:34:02,649 to the independent analysis of Malford's hair. 746 00:34:02,692 --> 00:34:05,739 A cash deposit, $60,000, 747 00:34:05,782 --> 00:34:07,262 straight into her personal checking account. 748 00:34:07,306 --> 00:34:11,005 Hmm. Okay, $60,000 question. 749 00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:13,094 Can we tie any of this cash back to Ryan Vance? 750 00:34:13,138 --> 00:34:15,618 Not yet, but we are gonna keep at it. 751 00:34:16,967 --> 00:34:18,795 I feel the heat all the way over here. 752 00:34:18,839 --> 00:34:20,101 Something not clicking for you? 753 00:34:20,145 --> 00:34:24,062 I got everything but the "why." 754 00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:27,108 Why would a successful attorney like Ryan Vance 755 00:34:27,152 --> 00:34:31,417 put his entire livelihood, his entire legacy on the line 756 00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:35,247 for a rapist and a murderer like John Malford? 757 00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:37,118 So... 758 00:34:37,162 --> 00:34:39,338 why frame Julia? 759 00:34:39,381 --> 00:34:41,557 Why go to all the trouble? 760 00:34:41,601 --> 00:34:43,951 Why risk putting a homicidal sexual predator 761 00:34:43,994 --> 00:34:46,997 back on the street, earn the enmity of the D.A.'s office 762 00:34:47,041 --> 00:34:51,915 by forcing them to reopen every case where Julia's evidence 763 00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:53,961 put someone away? 764 00:34:56,137 --> 00:34:58,705 Why? 765 00:34:58,748 --> 00:35:00,968 What are you thinking? 766 00:35:01,011 --> 00:35:02,926 Taylor, how long do you think it'd take 767 00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:05,668 to get a list of Ryan Vance's other clients? 768 00:35:05,712 --> 00:35:08,149 The other clients that are currently incarcerated? 769 00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:10,934 I'm kind of in the middle of something... 770 00:35:10,978 --> 00:35:13,589 I don't care. I want that list. 771 00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,243 BENNY: With Your Honor's approval, 772 00:35:15,287 --> 00:35:18,725 we'd like to call the person sitting in the third row, 773 00:35:18,768 --> 00:35:22,598 John Malford's attorney Ryan Vance, to the stand. 774 00:35:22,642 --> 00:35:24,426 JUDGE: Has the defense subpoenaed Mr. Vance? 775 00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:25,862 We don't typically allow 776 00:35:25,906 --> 00:35:28,474 those seated in the gallery to testify. 777 00:35:28,517 --> 00:35:30,084 Yes, we're aware of that, Your Honor. 778 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,217 But we're hoping that the court will see fit 779 00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:34,349 to grant us this approval. RYAN: Your Honor, 780 00:35:34,393 --> 00:35:36,351 I'm sorry, I-- this is the first I'm hearing of this. 781 00:35:36,395 --> 00:35:37,570 BENNY: Mr. Vance's 782 00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:39,702 petition for the independent analysis 783 00:35:39,746 --> 00:35:41,617 of the Malford evidence 784 00:35:41,661 --> 00:35:43,228 initiated this whole trial. 785 00:35:43,271 --> 00:35:45,882 I'd merely like him to speak 786 00:35:45,926 --> 00:35:49,277 to the history of how that new analysis came to be. 787 00:35:50,757 --> 00:35:53,281 All right. I'll allow it. 788 00:35:53,325 --> 00:35:56,589 BENNY: So Mr. Vance, when you requested 789 00:35:56,632 --> 00:35:58,591 an independent examination of the evidence 790 00:35:58,634 --> 00:36:02,377 in the John Malford case, did you know a negative match 791 00:36:02,421 --> 00:36:06,076 would call into question the professional conduct 792 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,167 and scientific expertise of my client, 793 00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:11,299 Dr. Julia Martin? 794 00:36:11,343 --> 00:36:12,953 That would be a natural consequence. 795 00:36:12,996 --> 00:36:15,347 She did perform the original analysis. 796 00:36:19,568 --> 00:36:21,788 Isn't it true 797 00:36:21,831 --> 00:36:25,183 that other cases will be reexamined as a result 798 00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:27,707 of Dr. Martin's prosecution? 799 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:31,972 Countless other criminals, murderers, rapists and thieves 800 00:36:32,015 --> 00:36:34,453 are going to file for dismissal of their sentences. 801 00:36:34,496 --> 00:36:37,195 As well they should be, yes. 802 00:36:37,238 --> 00:36:42,809 Ah. I-Isn't it also true that you are the sole owner 803 00:36:42,852 --> 00:36:48,162 of Barnaby Bank account number 00403010? 804 00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:50,556 I don't know, I... It very well could be. 805 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:52,166 I don't have my account number memorized. 806 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:56,518 I do bank at Barnaby, so yes, I suppose. 807 00:36:56,562 --> 00:37:01,219 A-And isn't it also true that you withdrew $60,000 in cash 808 00:37:01,262 --> 00:37:03,525 on September 21st from this account? 809 00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:05,832 Again, it's months ago. 810 00:37:05,875 --> 00:37:07,312 I don't have every transaction memorized, 811 00:37:07,355 --> 00:37:10,053 so yes, it's possible, it sounds possible. 812 00:37:10,097 --> 00:37:12,926 [laughs]: If you say so. 813 00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:15,015 Well, it's not me saying it. 814 00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:16,712 Your Honor, 815 00:37:16,756 --> 00:37:19,585 these are Mr. Vance's bank records 816 00:37:19,628 --> 00:37:22,283 for the month of September. 817 00:37:22,327 --> 00:37:26,026 I'd ask that you mark them 818 00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:28,115 as defense exhibit number 14. 819 00:37:28,158 --> 00:37:29,725 So marked. 820 00:37:29,769 --> 00:37:34,164 And lastly, do you know a Skylar Brown? 821 00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:36,471 RYAN: Uh... 822 00:37:36,515 --> 00:37:39,518 Uh, name rings a bell. I-I can't be certain, though. 823 00:37:39,561 --> 00:37:41,998 Well, she's an employee of the medical examiner's office 824 00:37:42,042 --> 00:37:45,828 with full access to all evidence storage. 825 00:37:45,872 --> 00:37:48,744 Including DNA samples. Objection, Your Honor. Relevance? 826 00:37:48,788 --> 00:37:51,138 I'm moments away, Your Honor, I promise. 827 00:37:51,181 --> 00:37:53,271 I certainly hope so. Overruled. 828 00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:54,663 Isn't it strange 829 00:37:54,707 --> 00:37:58,493 that just two days after you made your withdrawal, 830 00:37:58,537 --> 00:38:01,104 Skylar Brown paid off all of her credit cards, 831 00:38:01,148 --> 00:38:04,107 her delinquent loans? 832 00:38:04,151 --> 00:38:06,849 All of her outstanding debts? 833 00:38:06,893 --> 00:38:11,898 Following a deposit of exactly $60,000 in cash 834 00:38:11,941 --> 00:38:13,682 into her checking account? 835 00:38:13,726 --> 00:38:17,817 I wouldn't say strange. I might say coincidental. 836 00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:20,254 Ah. 837 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:22,038 How old were you when your brother 838 00:38:22,082 --> 00:38:23,388 was convicted of murder? 839 00:38:26,869 --> 00:38:28,828 I really don't think that has anything to do 840 00:38:28,871 --> 00:38:30,395 with the business at hand. 841 00:38:30,438 --> 00:38:35,051 I-Isn't your brother Trevor one of your clients? 842 00:38:35,095 --> 00:38:40,274 And wasn't the evidence in his case also assessed by my client, 843 00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:42,624 Dr. Julia Martin? 844 00:38:42,668 --> 00:38:45,323 And if Dr. Martin is found guilty, 845 00:38:45,366 --> 00:38:48,151 isn't Trevor's conviction likely to be overturned, 846 00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:50,328 just like John Malford's? 847 00:38:50,371 --> 00:38:52,112 And isn't that why you paid 848 00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:56,812 Skylar Brown $60,000, 849 00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:58,205 to replace the hair that was used 850 00:38:58,248 --> 00:39:01,251 to convict your client, John Malford? 851 00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:07,127 JUDGE: Mr. Vance, 852 00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:09,172 do you need the question repeated? 853 00:39:11,305 --> 00:39:13,394 Oh, that's all right, Your Honor. 854 00:39:13,438 --> 00:39:16,441 I think the jury already has their answer. 855 00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:18,181 No further questions. 856 00:39:22,621 --> 00:39:25,580 Is the prosecution prepared to cross-examine the witness? 857 00:39:30,324 --> 00:39:32,631 Actually, no. 858 00:39:34,110 --> 00:39:37,766 But we are prepared, based on Ryan Vance's testimony 859 00:39:37,810 --> 00:39:41,291 and the evidence presented by Mr. Colón, 860 00:39:41,335 --> 00:39:42,641 to withdraw our charges 861 00:39:42,684 --> 00:39:44,643 against Dr. Martin... [gallery murmuring] 862 00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:47,950 ...and offer our apologies. 863 00:39:47,994 --> 00:39:51,040 [gavel banging] 864 00:39:58,657 --> 00:40:01,399 Thank you. You're welcome. 865 00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:05,403 [laughs softly] 866 00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:24,552 Oh, Dr. Martin, it's 2:00 in the morning, and I heard a noise. 867 00:40:24,596 --> 00:40:27,990 No one else is here, you know, and I was just about to leave. 868 00:40:28,034 --> 00:40:29,905 You gonna be okay? 869 00:40:29,949 --> 00:40:32,908 I'm going to be perfect.